Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  There's a patchwork of laws. Typically, in the U.S. we've always kind of broken down laws almost by industry type, such as in the case of the telecommunications act and the health act. It's a patchwork either by federal law or by state law. The Utah one that keeps popping up is a

Industry committee  That's correct.

Industry committee  Go ahead.

Industry committee  Yes. I was actually taking a look at a statistic I did a couple of years ago. Back in July of 2004, the United Nations actually estimated that spam cost the global economy around $25 billion annually. Obviously since that time it's heavily increased. That's one of the numbers I'

Industry committee  Yes. If I may, Jay Thomson, the former head of the Canadian Association of Internet Providers, estimated that the average cost to consumers was $5 a month. That cost that has since jumped up. What's interesting, though, is that the amount of spam you see today in your inbox is

Industry committee  It's way higher now.

Industry committee  Just to add to that, I was saying earlier that, at least in America with the CAN-SPAM Act, we've seen improvements in marketing. From Eloqua's standpoint, it is the same thing. Especially in this down economy we've seen people go from the postal side to the online side mostly bec

Industry committee  That's the point I was going to make. A lot of them are already doing this today from a best practices standpoint. My experience in the U.S. with CAN-SPAM, when we were working on the law back in 2003, was that a lot of concerns just like that were brought up, and what we have fo

Industry committee  Our company, Eloqua, is a company that helps other companies generate lists and prospects. We do that by enticing or giving technology to our customers to entice other people to come and register and actually take an action—to put in their name, e-mail address, and a phone number

Industry committee  That was my understanding as well, sir, that there's an exception in there. I'd have to go back and check, unfortunately.

Industry committee  It's my understanding that Bill C-27 follows the money. Most domestic spammers or Canadian spammers today tend to e-mail offshore, to get around blocking techniques and other laws that might be out there. But in general, the way I interpret the law—and Matthew might want to also

Industry committee  Thank you. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Dennis Dayman. I'm the secretary treasurer of the Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail, or CAUCE. With me today is Matthew Vernhout, one of CAUCE's directors at- arge, who's on the anti-spam task force as w