Finance committee  It's a rather broad statement and question, but let me just make a couple of comments. Nortel had 100,000 employees back in 2000. The market gap was more than $250 million. It was in a tailspin at the end of 2005, down to 32,000 to 33,000 employees. I can just tell you the work

Finance committee  We did have a number of very in-depth discussions in November, December, and January. There were a number of cases presented to the government during active discussions. But there are no specific actions that came out of those.

Finance committee  We did have lots of discussions. Preserving employment was at the top of the list. We are currently pursuing a number of discussions internally and with outside companies as to the best way to preserve value for the company, including preserving employment. The government has b

Finance committee  Correct.

Finance committee  Sir, this is obviously.... Those were private discussions, and they were very active discussions, as I'm sure--

Finance committee  There was a general request for financial assistance for a period of time.

Finance committee  Those were—

Finance committee  Those were discussions to help the company, to keep it from going into CCAA.

Finance committee  Yes. It was done to help the company continue, without going to CCAA.

Finance committee  I'm sure I will consider that. I've spoken to many employees and still continue to speak to many current and former employees.

Finance committee  The speaking comment was a combination of listening and speaking. I will consider that. Thank you.

Finance committee  We've had a number of meetings: November, December, January, and March....

Finance committee  Yes, in private discussions, yes.

Finance committee  I mean, we've spoken with a number of them.

Finance committee  We've spoken with Industry, Trade—