Agriculture committee  When you come to these programs, because we're involved in grains and oilseeds, we have to be careful which to countervail. It doesn't really affect us as much, but when we sit around with the Grain Growers of Canada, that's the issue that always comes up. They don't want to hear about any programs or any of these because of the countervail issue.

Agriculture committee  Yes, the WTO. So how do you get around that? We have to speak in one voice, because we represent the grains and oilseeds. But we come up to that wall all the time. East of Manitoba they don't want to hear anything about any of these programs.

Agriculture committee  Yes. Maybe we should be more like them.

Agriculture committee  You can go ahead first.

Agriculture committee  As well, we don't have the big companies back here. We just have small ones, so it's hard for us to partner. Plus, being a not-for-profit organization, it's hard for us to get the funds to get going to apply for some of these programs. By the time we put the project in, it's depleted of all funds.

Agriculture committee  We're a little disappointed about moving the clusters. This is the time that we're losing our livestock industry and losing that market, so we need alternative crops. That's why we're depending on these clusters to help us move the industry forward. Without the clusters we have no research and no research money.

Agriculture committee  As I say, we do have some good opportunities. We have that nice little niche market of soybeans going to Japan and other different areas. Everything is not doom and gloom.