Finance committee  What I was trying to talk about was more the structure of the programs themselves. Many disability programs are “all or nothing” propositions. In other words, you get that program, you get the benefits from it—CPP disability is much like that—but if you go back to full-time work then you receive absolutely nothing from the program.

Finance committee  It doesn't address our concern, because we're really talking about the large programs in Canada. When brought together they spend about $28 billion in total. They're at the federal and provincial levels of government; some are even at the municipal level and in private industry.

Finance committee  I don't believe it addresses it.

Finance committee  Thank you. There's a real lack of coordination in governments among disability income support programs. Government, private, and quasi-government bodies spent an estimated $28 billion—please make note of this figure—in 2008 and 2009 in direct income support benefits to individuals with disabilities, without any comprehensive oversight respecting what the programs do as a whole or purport to achieve for Canadians with disabilities.