Justice committee  That is true. I do know youth who only engage in criminal activities because they aren't old enough.... They're pretty mature for 13 or 14, but they can't go get a job yet. They have the willingness to work. If they could work, they would go get a job. They would work and they would make their own money, and buy their own clothing instead of going out and shoplifting it.

Justice committee  Yes. Halifax is not a very big city, right? So when something goes on in this city, say a shooting, for example, everyone hears about it. In Halifax, everybody knows everybody, so if there's a shooting, if I don't know who did it, I guarantee I know somebody who knows who did it.