Finance committee  Not at the moment, and of course that takes a fair amount of time to develop. Certainly things are being talked about, but the discussion is changing in the nuclear space. It is a discussion that isn't quite so much about the large systems in the future. It is about SMRs. It's ab

Finance committee  There is certainly research, and dollars that are going into research in both Canada and the U.S that we're following very closely, in the micro and the SMR space.

Finance committee  In terms of commitments for projects, we're at the research and development stage; we're not yet at the rolling-out stage.

Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. My name is Francis Bradley, and I am the chief operating officer of the Canadian Electricity Association, or CEA. CEA is the national voice of electricity. Our members include generation, transmission and distribution companies, as well as technology and s

Natural Resources committee  Yes, and not just considering—there are a number of pilot projects across the country precisely in this space. If we are considering what our climate change goals are and what the impacts will be on the economy writ large, I've mentioned to this committee before about some work

Natural Resources committee  I would agree entirely. Both types of tools are going to be needed and for different things. Clearly, there's a very significant role that standards and regulations can play on the one hand, but we also know that in some circumstances incentives are also very effective. I don't

Natural Resources committee  That's an excellent question. The ones that have the most bang for the buck—

Natural Resources committee  The industrial programs for specific initiatives result in the greatest energy savings for individual actions that are taken, because you're talking about the largest loads around, on the one hand. On the other hand, if the second question is where are you going to get the most

Natural Resources committee  I don't have numbers on it, but my guess, based on talking to our members, is that it's likely in the consumer space. It means reaching out to a greater number of people, but the ability to get people on board is also an additional benefit.

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely, and thank you for that. We tend to use shorthand to try to explain sometimes what some of these efficiencies translate to. Perhaps that's one of the ones we might want to suggest be used a little differently. As you point out, this is something that is clearly evolv

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to the members of the committee for inviting CEA to appear before you this afternoon. I am Francis Bradley, the chief operating officer of CEA. I am joined this morning by my colleague Sarah Nolan, and I am also delighted to be appearing along

Natural Resources committee  Yes. Agreed.

Natural Resources committee  That is a terrific question. It is central. The short answer is, no we don't have the capacity to be able to fix data quality—certainly not specifically in Canada. This is a universal problem. Every jurisdiction and economy has to deal with it, and is dealing with it. As for what

Natural Resources committee  I would agree entirely. For this to work, it's going to have to be done in a co-operative and collaborative manner. We've suggested that there will be a need for formal agreements between the different levels of government, ultimately, whether the tool to move forward with is the

Natural Resources committee  Sure. It is an interesting dynamic. What it speaks to is the transformations that are already starting to take place in the electricity business. I would liken it to where telecommunications was 20 years ago. Wireline telephone service was a monopoly and it still is today, but g