Finance committee  You're totally right. The residential hospices in this country are predominantly in Ontario and Quebec, with some in B.C. They aren't universal in the country. We know that they're a good program to offer. They are well supported in some areas, but they are struggling with the model of being a charity.

Finance committee  Let me tackle that one. On the first part of your statement, we don't like to consider euthanasia and assisted suicide as any part of palliative care, and they really aren't. Hospice palliative care is a set of services delivered to help ease people at the end of their lives. It constitutes a lot of things besides that.

Finance committee  Good morning. Thanks for allowing us to come and present to the finance committee today. We'd like to keep our presentation brief and draw your attention to the brief that we submitted. The written brief is submitted for further details. The brief is a submission between the Pallium Foundation of Canada and the Canadian Society of Palliative Care Physicians, and it is supported by the Canadian Hospice Palliative Care Association, of which I'm the executive director.