Public Safety committee  Mr. Sorenson, that's a very good question. First, maybe real alcohol coming inside will be found more in minimum security. For medium and maximum security, normally they're going to create their own alcohol. I was on a committee in 1999 regarding alcohol—how they do it and why t

Public Safety committee  I think that it is an idea that must be looked at. For example, if you are in La Macaza Institution in Quebec, and you are transferred to another institution, the programs offered there may not necessarily be the same. There are a number of reason why people may be transferred at

Public Safety committee  We are handling so many different populations. Sometimes, institutions change their approach because of the type of population. In Quebec in the 1990s, we had a major danger to face. Institutions were becoming compartmentalized. There was a Rock Machine prison and a Hells Angel

Public Safety committee  Right; that is where our job is not easy. Take all those names, go and fight those privileged positions. Ask the real questions. Give me the name of the president of the inmate committee—let's say at Leclerc, let's say at Cowansville, let's say another place—and ask if he's rela

Public Safety committee  I heard some numbers this morning. I'm not saying they're good, and I'm not saying they're not good. It's possible; can I say it like that?

Public Safety committee  You know, you have to consider the level of the institution: maximum, medium, minimum. As I said at the beginning, yes, those tools are helping. Are we going to succeed to eliminate all of the drugs? Are we going to succeed so that nobody will ever have a problem with drugs? Are

Public Safety committee  I think those tools help us to find more drugs, yes.

Public Safety committee  But it's not perfect.

Public Safety committee  The measures we have in place now are tools, measures that will help us to be better. But I want to give you an example. We found $47,000 in drugs at Stony Mountain two weeks ago.

Public Safety committee  We try, but we need to be sure that those.... First of all, yes; to answer your question, yes. But I'm going to say something here. It's all really related to one thing. You give us resources. You give us money to do stuff. Well, let's do it. Don't not give us the opportunity t

Public Safety committee  Those tools will help us.

Public Safety committee  Oh, yes. I'm not saying no.

Public Safety committee  No, you have to be careful with that. You ask if we relate the using of drugs with staff assault.... I'm going to speak in French, if that's okay. I want to make sure I say it right. We are saying that drugs are linked to assaults on staff. But we are thinking that if the qua

Public Safety committee  Let's start with the population.

Public Safety committee  Mr. Sorenson, should I be answering the question or not? I'm not sure what I'm doing now.