Public Safety committee  I'll be fast. Pathways, just for clarification, isn't a program; it's an intervention. The programs Mr. Hyppolite just mentioned are actual correctional programs that are part of Correctional Service programs or a healing plan. The Pathways units were established very quickly, largely but not only for aboriginal offenders who wish to follow aboriginal healing to address their issues—mental health, addictions, and other historical or family issues—more intensively.

Public Safety committee  Thank you. I'm Lisa Allgaier, the director general for aboriginal initiatives. I've been in the position since November 2002. It was my first position with the federal government. Prior to that, I worked for the Province of B.C. as the director for aboriginal health. I've worked in, with, and for the aboriginal community for over 20 years now, all my working career.