Public Accounts committee  Thank you, Chair. The disclosure is in a couple of parts. The first section the member is referring to is the loss occurring or discovery in the current fiscal year, so 2009-10. If you actually flip a little further, Mr. Chair, to 2.44, you'll see an update of cases reported in

Public Accounts committee  No. We assist departments in terms of their disclosure.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I don't think it's appropriate for me to answer that question.

Public Accounts committee  To add a bit of precision, a number of years back, the decision was taken to produce.... As you might notice, volume III is quite thick. On the public accounts website you will see exact replicas of these three documents, but you will also see an additional bit of information tha

Public Accounts committee  You can go back for many years of the public accounts.

Public Accounts committee  It is current as well.

Public Accounts committee  Thank you. There are parts of the public accounts that are printed, obviously, but there are other sections that are available online only. You will see additional detail around large payments that are available only online, but they are available to the public.

Public Accounts committee  My understanding is that if the payments are above a certain threshold, they're required to be posted there. We can verify to see if there were payments above that threshold to make sure we've captured them all, if that's the question--

Public Accounts committee  I don't know which departments have actually made those payments. If it's specific to a department, it's better for them to give you the analysis. If it's a matter of ensuring the disclosure is following our rules, we can undertake to ensure we have the disclosure correct. But if

Public Accounts committee  We'll verify the amount of the payments in question. If there are any that are above our threshold, they should be there. And we'll verify that the disclosure is appropriate. If it's not, we'll let you know, but my--

Public Accounts committee  We're making our best estimates as to the recoverability. If the corporations or individuals involved have now declared bankruptcy and there are no assets there, that is informing our disclosure here. The courts make a decision as to whether there's a loss. There's a separate pro

Public Accounts committee  The court's rulings were around whether there was a loss. To the best of my knowledge, the judgment on the likelihood of recovery is based on analysis that they've declared bankruptcy and they are no longer solvent. That doesn't mean there aren't efforts to recover—those go on—bu

Public Accounts committee  There are still more cases before the courts. I believe that Public Works continues to maintain a website that actually offers updates on hearings before the courts.

Public Accounts committee  I can likely help. Laptops, by their nature, are more “stealable”, if I can use that word, than desktops. They're easily transported. What you'll find with the losses of laptops over history is that departments allowing greater access to the public because of the nature of thei

Public Accounts committee  If you look at the disclosure around losses of public money, it's divided into a couple of chunks. We've got issues when we take losses that end up being heard by the courts. We don't actually disclose a loss until we can make a credible estimate as to how much was lost. If you'r