Public Safety committee  Thanks, Mr. Chairman.

Public Safety committee  I suppose any kind of incarceration is a risk for a mentally ill person. If a mentally ill person is placed in a secure setting that doesn't attend to their mental health needs, it's bound to be a risk. Perhaps that's what the person who was speaking to you was saying. A custodia

Public Safety committee  There's no doubt about the benefits of a good environment. I had someone the other day asking the commission, just because he thought we might know, about the design of a large new office. He wanted to know how to design it to promote mental health among his workers. So we did a

Public Safety committee  I would bet that if the commissioner of corrections were here, he could find you 300 people in half an hour in the general population who would very well use an intermediate facility, plus people coming out of the RTC. I think people from both directions could use these kinds of

Public Safety committee  The first use I'd recommend would be as a step-down in intensive care from an RTC. It would be persons who've been to a regional treatment centre, who have been very severely mentally ill, and who are now going to a less intensive facility but not back into the general population

Public Safety committee  To go back to the intermediate facility idea, for instance, the correctional services have many people at the moment who go from RTCs back to the general population. Take a group of 300 people who are going to that population, divert 150 of them randomly to the intermediate facil

Public Safety committee  Absolutely. The Scarborough court in Toronto is a good example of good streaming, so if you're looking for a good example, talk to the gentleman who's a PhD now, who works in that court, who works for the Canadian Mental Health Association. He's an expert in early streaming for p

Public Safety committee  I see them as a Correctional Service of Canada facility and I think they would be less intensive in the kind of care they would be trying to provide than the regional treatment centre you visited, or less intensive than the Brockville facility that I mentioned the province operat

Public Safety committee  It would be the latter. It would be an institution, because there are those community facilities. These would be people who are not yet ready to go out into the community but who are somewhere in their mental health status between the general population and somebody who is severe

Public Safety committee  Well, we certainly aren't, that's for sure. We're not turning out enough people. I would look less at the training of people at the advanced level. Psychiatrists are getting very good training. Psychologists are getting terrific training. Social workers are getting better and be

Public Safety committee  Are you thinking of the institutions in the community that deal with that kind of clientele?

Public Safety committee  Absolutely, yes. I was just going to say that there are others who are much more expert than I am in prevention promotion activities, and lots has been written and said about it that is practically being used and is in place at the moment. I'd be more than happy to do that, Mr.

Public Safety committee  You saw the facility in Saskatoon. There's one nearby here, in Brockville, which I'd recommend you have a look at as well. The Royal Ottawa Hospital runs it; it is a provincial institution. Correctional officers run the security side; therapeutic staff—Ottawa Hospital staff—run t

Public Safety committee  It certainly isn't simple, and there's no uniform way to do it. For example, yesterday I attended a meeting in Toronto, where agencies that are dealing with the Somali community, the Caribbean community, and the Tamil community are working with a different approach from just st

Public Safety committee  I'd hearken back to a program that the Federal Bureau of Prisons had in place in the U.S. some years ago. I don't know what they're doing these days. They took all of their new recruits--and it didn't matter whether you were a psychiatrist or a correctional officer, or whatever y