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Transport committee  The way the bill is framed now, it is completely at the discretion of the airline. So the exemption from PIPEDA is not given to a process by which somebody would apply for an exemption, it's completely discretionary.

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  I think that will be one issue. There will also be the issue of whether the bill, abilitating this, raises the liability under the charter, for example. That's unclear territory at this stage.

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  My understanding is that one of the cornerstones of privacy protection in law is that the information can only be used for the purpose for which it was acquired. To the extent that an agency acquires information for its purposes, it cannot share it with other agencies, no matter

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  Well, certainly I think part of the problem is that once they get into trouble, the process....

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  I don't have the numbers, because we don't know fully who is on the list and who is not on the list. But we can get you the numbers, because it's in litigation in the U.S., I think.

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  Yes. I take issue with this, because what we're looking at is an exemption from an existing law. PIPEDA exists. It has been passed by parliamentarians, and it recognizes that, indeed, there is value in protecting the privacy of Canadians. We didn't come here to say that you ha

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  Yes, people can be detained based on this information. That's the concern. They can be detained in foreign jails, and that's a concern.

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  Our position is there's a way in which a process of exemption should be curtailed, and you keep control over when and how you give the exemption. You should certainly have parliamentary oversight about which countries you're allowing the sharing to be with. You should also demand

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  Thank you for the advice. As I said, I think our position is quite clear that it is your responsibility to ensure that there is privacy protection in this legislation.

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  Yes, I got it.

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  They certainly would be a good step. I think the question of assurances, which we do all the time—we request of the U.S., for example, that they not use the death penalty on someone and so on—with a view to complying with Canadian law, is appropriate in this context. In an in

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Transport committee  Definitely. That's one of the issues. Furthermore, the information that supports access to the no-fly list, especially the American list, is sometimes obtained through torture. The entire process of the lists as instruments of protection against terrorism is at risk. The United N

November 23rd, 2010Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  Thank you very much. I want to thank the committee for having invited the Canadian Civil Liberties Association to appear. I will make the first part of my remarks in French and the second in English. The Canadian Civil Liberties Association has existed since 1964. It has always

February 10th, 2011Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  That's the reason for the sunset clause. When it expires, you evaluate the evidence you have in terms of the dangers the changes seek. I think it's no coincidence that at the same time as we are doing this exercise--and we should do it thoroughly, by looking at the evidence we ha

February 10th, 2011Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  I think we should mention also that there were some successful prosecutions of terrorism before it occurred, in the Toronto 18, for example. So I think we have the evidence on the other side.

February 10th, 2011Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers