Agriculture committee  A limited volume of products, yes; that's where the production of those products is located.

Agriculture committee  That's right.

Agriculture committee  Yes.

Agriculture committee  I do know, from speaking to people in the industry in the U.S. and Europe, that they don't want it on the table, but their governments do. They're going to have to sort that out. They are both protected markets, so they would both be defensive in that agreement in terms of the in

Agriculture committee  That's correct.

Agriculture committee  Yes, mostly. Actually, sugar beet would dominate, but they have both.

Agriculture committee  Yes. Their whole price support program has principally fostered the growth of the sugar beet industry in the U.S.

Agriculture committee  How can we compete here in Canada or in their market?

Agriculture committee  We actually have anti-dumping duties against U.S. sugar, which give temporary relief from unfair exports into Canada. Prior to 1995, surplus sugar imports were coming into Canada from the U.S. priced unfairly in a very big way. We have gone to the International Trade Tribunal to

Agriculture committee  That's the unfairly priced sugar. Some still does come in, but we don't need to get into the complexities of that.

Agriculture committee  Most of the exports from Canada would be in confectionery, bakery, and so on. There are quotas for some of our sugar-containing products. We're very competitive, because our price is based on the world price and because we have had to compete with these giants for so many years.

Agriculture committee  They have a very high price support, which reflects that tariff, so it's well over $1,000 a tonne.

Agriculture committee  It's 419 euros per tonne. It depends on the price, but it's over 100%.

Agriculture committee  It's high, yes. It's prohibitive.

Agriculture committee  We've never been able to export to Europe.