Status of Women committee  Yes, thank you. I'd like to answer that. I think the simple answer is to abolish the lists. There is no requirement to keep those lists. If there are women on those lists, there is nothing preventing them from reapplying. As an example, Mr. Dufresne cites a list from Local 502.

Status of Women committee  Exactly.

Status of Women committee  May I answer that? I think it's a matter of both. It's a matter of men not being aware and it's also a matter of education. I have come from an industry that was male-dominated. We did an awareness campaign to attract women into the industry. We made it known what the work hou

Status of Women committee  Thank you. I just want to address an issue you had touched upon, and that is day care. If there is a need and a requirement we will definitely be looking at that. We are going to look at every avenue, at everything that is required to make women successful on that waterfront.

Status of Women committee  I'd just like to respond to some of your comments, Mr. Simms. First of all, the number one barrier to women entering the longshore industry is exactly the dispatch system. For anybody who—

Status of Women committee  I think you did make a comment about the dispatch system and women having to go in on a shift-by-shift basis type of thing, did you not?

Status of Women committee  Apply for a shift...?

Status of Women committee  That's right. That is the dispatch system.

Status of Women committee  It is the number one barrier that prevents women from entering the longshore industry. As I had painted in my picture, to go out into the dispatch hall three times a day to register yourself for work does not in itself bode well for women entering the industry at all.

Status of Women committee  Yes. In some instances, there are people who are called back the next day, but that is not the majority of the work. The majority of the work still is within the dispatch hall.

Status of Women committee  Sure. As casual workers, we have a total of 255 women who represent 5.4%, and we have 37 union members who represent a total of 1%.

Status of Women committee  Sorry, but I may just add this? Also, there is Local 514 of the ILWU, which represents foremen. That is the next level of supervision. There are 435 foremen within ILWU Local 514 and one woman is a foreman.

Status of Women committee  Sorry, but if I may correct Mr. Dufresne--

Status of Women committee  Okay.

Status of Women committee  Sure.