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Justice committee  You cannot directly benefit from a forfeiture. The vehicles in place to reinvest into policing are the grant programs; all police services in the province can apply to the grant programs. I would say that on average about 50% of what is forfeited and is being managed by the feder

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  That's correct. Three grant programs are available.

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  That's correct. That's how much we believe we directly assist in forfeitures.

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  As you know, we have the Organized Crime Enforcement Bureau. We carry out intelligence-led policing. Obviously that information would be submitted to our intelligence analysis cycle, and obviously, if the information were paramount and linked to some of our priorities, we would a

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  Not victimized...some of them were. Some of them participated in activity unknowingly. For example, take a grow house that's worth $500,000 and there's a $250,000 mortgage on the house. We've taken the position that we've taken $500,000 out of that criminal economy. Obviously, yo

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  Yes. They can make application to the courts.

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  Yes, when we plan large investigations, when we target organized crime, obviously we go through a process of planning the investigation. Sometimes our lead into starting an investigation may be something that has a lead that we would be consulting with federal prosecutors on. As

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  I'm not certain of that, but I believe that's what it would take, yes.

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  Regrettably, I don't have the accurate numbers, but I'm comfortable saying that the federally prosecuted matters are greater than the provincially prosecuted matters. That's specifically in Ontario with the marijuana grow houses that we're having difficulty with; we're seizing a

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  I believe that would be a fair comment, yes.

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  This would have been for the last five years, meaning 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, and 2005.

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  That is combined. That was all the seizures and forfeitures from the three legislative processes--provincial, federal, and civil.

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  Yes, that's correct.

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  You have to recognize that the $155 million is money that we froze and seized. A lot of that money will go back to innocent third-party interests--a lot of it. Some of it would go back to--

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron

Justice committee  What I said, Honourable Lemay, was that there are three legislative processes we access when we conduct an investigation. In the Criminal Code and the CDSA, the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, one is the proceeds of crime. We have to demonstrate that the properties we're try

April 13th, 2010Committee meeting

Insp Don Perron