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April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  From my recollection of the cases that involved the NDS, they most likely made the investigation.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  I'm sorry, but I missed the first part of the question because I was trying to answer Mr. Dewar.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  I don't know, but what I will tell you is that I would certainly not want to comment about the ICRC's work.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  Thanks. Look, I think you are quite right. The point of that message, as you've pointed out, was that a certain organization wanted us to speed up our notification procedure because they had concerns.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  Well, to be clear, I tried to give focus to what I thought was the point of the message.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  I ask a lot of people to do a lot of things--

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  And I'd look back at it, and sure I did, yes.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  That point remained. It was front and centre in the summary of the message and in the content of the message, and that point was made, I think, in two or three successive paragraphs. So in my view I was just kind of trying to make sure that in fact people understood that was what needed to be done; a few days later, we in fact did change the policy on that issue.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  Well, I think we had a number of allegations that were made as a result of our monitoring missions. That's point one. Point two, the agreement that we signed had clearly in it that the Afghans would exercise their obligations and their sovereignty by investigating allegations. So that was done.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  --it's absolutely important to protect their work.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  I think, from my recollection--

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  One, I think everyone struggles with the issue. Two, I go back to the fact that we have international organizations on the ground that look at this issue of detainee monitoring. They do it, obviously, because that's the best way to deal with this: to monitor and have evidence, and then improve, because the bottom line, as I think Ron Hoffmann and others have pointed out, is that we need to build the capacity of the Afghans for them to be able to fulfill their obligations.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  Thank you. I think it would be fair to say that we discussed this issue, among other issues, with every visiting elected official. It was part of the brief that we would give to people to explain to them what we were trying to do. In that context, we certainly discussed it. I think they certainly understood what we were trying to do and had an understanding of what it was we were trying to do and what we were facing.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani

Afghanistan committee  Thank you. I am very confident that during the time I was there and when I left we were certainly meeting our obligations.

April 21st, 2010Committee meeting

Arif Lalani