Human Resources committee  No, we do not.

Human Resources committee  Bill, can you...?

Human Resources committee  I don't think we'd be comfortable in taking a position on behalf of the CLC, Mr. Martin, thanks.

Human Resources committee  The only affiliations we have internationally would be with other pilot organizations within the Star Alliance carriers.

Human Resources committee  I would say that you know that not everybody does have a robust pension plan such as ours. That's certainly not within my purview, but I certainly agree that it is within the purview of this committee and Parliament to address. It's sort of beyond my pay grade, I guess. But you a

Human Resources committee  I would say if you included our proposed amendment, where you're protecting the bona fide pension plan, the situation such as our own, where there is a very generous, in fact bona fide, pension plan, especially where it's concomitant with a deferred wage scheme, a true deferred w

Human Resources committee  Yes, and it depends. In fact, even two of us starting at the same age may have very different pension expectations as well. I'm a former member of the Canadian Armed Forces, so I have almost 10 years of pensionable service in the Canadian Armed Forces, which I have been allowed t

Human Resources committee  Thank you, Madam Beaudin. I have to go back to this. From where do we draw our mandate? From where do we formulate the position we adopt? It comes from the same people. It is an interesting question. Is it discrimination if everybody is treated the same? Everybody in our organi

Human Resources committee  I believe that happened long before I was born, so maybe I'll let Bill speak to that one.

Human Resources committee  I think that's patently incorrect, because every collective agreement that has ever been established between Air Canada and its pilots has been ratified by the pilots. I'm not sure where that flows from, whether or not it was initially instituted by fiat. You know our money is in

Human Resources committee  No, no, but there's a value—

Human Resources committee  So there's a value for Air Canada in that, because they can plan—

Human Resources committee  Sixty.

Human Resources committee  Compared to other groups, you are correct that there are different pay systems out there, and many different types of retirement compensation schemes and pension plans. None that I can think of are as generous as our own, in terms of pay or pension. That, of course, is by design,

Human Resources committee  We actually conducted two.