Veterans Affairs committee  Ask them. The issue, I believe, boils down to—my first premise—money. I believe that in all the changes that Veterans Affairs looks at implementing, they look at the fiscal deficit and run those numbers over 20, 30, or 40 years, to the point where they're unfathomable; therefore,

Veterans Affairs committee  Unless someone can prove me wrong, I'll have to stand by those words.

Veterans Affairs committee  In comparison with workers' compensation and those provincial programs, I believe Veterans Affairs has looked at what the various provinces do. I'm not sure we can equate workers' compensation boards and those types of policies and insurance plans to veterans' plans and to either

Veterans Affairs committee  No. Veterans Affairs is in the process of changing all their four advisory groups, so we met in December, and we may meet again in November.

Veterans Affairs committee  Right.

Veterans Affairs committee  For this year, yes.

Veterans Affairs committee  Did I take my 10 minutes?

Veterans Affairs committee  I've never doubted it.

Veterans Affairs committee  Maybe for another five minutes. Yes.

Veterans Affairs committee  I assumed I was here in that capacity.

Veterans Affairs committee  Five years.

Veterans Affairs committee  From the very first meeting. I became the chair after about a year.

Veterans Affairs committee  You may be missing report number four. The first three reports were a bit lengthy and it was hard to find the actual points. The fourth report...I had an academic help me. It's more succinct. I brought a copy, which I can leave with you.

Veterans Affairs committee  It's only in English.

Veterans Affairs committee  Fine. We march to their drum. We can provide all our recommendations and observations, but we are an advisory group, so if Veterans Affairs chooses not to do anything, that's their call. I think they appreciate our reports. You've seen my candour today. I let it all hang out. I