Canadian Heritage committee  Our stations pay SOCAN fees.

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm fairly confident that we have a reduced rate, but I would have to check.

Canadian Heritage committee  This is my first week as executive director.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's why I know so much about the members because I used to be a membership coordinator. I'm pretty sure we pay a reduced rate. They pay a Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency, CMRRA, tariff, and that is a reduced rate. The NCCRA members negotiated a deal with them. Th

Canadian Heritage committee  I believe it.

Canadian Heritage committee  It's the package, and in some cases people are coming up with cheap solutions. In fact, in general, on the text stuff, the actual physical stuff, a lot of our stations are pretty good at cobbling together unique solutions. What we don't have is the people power. As I said, those

Canadian Heritage committee  That doesn't ask us to change our model; it just asks us to maybe adapt our method of distribution. We're already doing a version of that. If we want to continue to do that, we need the funding to help make it happen--just to bring it back around.

Canadian Heritage committee  Which one?

Canadian Heritage committee  To create revenue? It depends on the station. For campus stations, a major chunk of their funding is often by student levy—CHMA, for instance. This means that the students give so much out of their tuition towards it.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes. We have funding drives. CHUO, here in town, had a funding drive, and they are almost at $40,000. CKCU, also in town, raised $108,000. CJSW, in Calgary, raised $200,000 from their community in 10 days—just people calling and saying, “Yes, I'll give you money.”

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm not sure I totally understand your point. We need to be in a different category...?

Canadian Heritage committee  Oh, yes, that's true.

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm going to limit my comments not to radio but to community and campus-based radio. I think you could be right; FM might become less and less important. That being said, I think there is always going to be a need for community centres, where people can come together and produc

Canadian Heritage committee  Do you mean beyond the ones I mentioned to you?

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm sure there are many community organizations that come. We all need the same thing, and that is funding. For Telefilm, but also for the other presenters, we're already doing a lot of the things you're looking for, as you said. What we need is the capacity to do them and to con