Justice committee  It is trivialized.

Justice committee  I think that right now, that is not the case. Out of the 10 who were arrested, there are at least two...

Justice committee  ...who have re-offended. They went to prison, they attended programs, and nothing changed.

Justice committee  Excuse me—

Justice committee  No, excuse me, no, no.

Justice committee  There were three. Three of those ten young people were minors.

Justice committee  There were ten. Of the ten, three were minors, including the principal murderer.

Justice committee  He will be released in seven years. To us, seven years, for the murder of our boy—