Citizenship and Immigration committee  Laws in Canada allow any refugee claimant, after their case has been rejected, to choose other avenues of appeal to the system, and perhaps some of them use this time to stay longer. However, it is justifiable that some of these cases are incorrectly concluded and well-deserving cases may be rejected as well.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I certainly agree with that, sir. Is it fair to allow a human being who believed that his case has not been proven due to the fact that maybe he was unable to gather enough support...? So if changing the country of origin to allow these persons' cases to be more valid...that system should allow that person to re-open his case and live in this country without fear of persecution.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I understand.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you, sir. To continue with my appeal here about the safe country of origin, we believe the objective should be to prevent the problem of unfounded refugee claims before they are filed, by developing a pre-screening procedure. Safe country designation is simply not a solution.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Pinarbasi would like to answer any questions you have, but he is not going to say anything right now.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Karygiannis, I appreciate the question. I certainly believe that eight days is not enough for any person who left the country I have described and fled to Canada, a safe haven, where they would find a peaceful place to live. I want to give an example to illustrate this again.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I want to give you an example to illustrate why the safe country of origin destination is questionable.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Consider the Republic of Turkey.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I will take the time for Mr. Huseyin Pinarbasi for this. Is that fair enough?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I appreciate that. You have slowed me down.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I will make this point and then conclude.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I am giving an example of the Republic of Turkey. Turkey wants to join the EU. It's part of the G-20, it wants to shape the world, it attempts to mediate between Israel and Syria, and it collaborates with Brazil to stop the world from confronting Iran for its ill-fated nuclear ambitions.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I will start and if Mr. Pinarbasi would like to continue, he will take the next step. Honourable members of the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration, my name is Dogan Dogan. I am a Canadian citizen of Kurdish descent, a resident of Toronto, Ontario. I am currently working at the Kurdish Community and Information Centre, advising the president and the board of directors on issues concerning Kurds and their community.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I will do that.