Government Operations committee  I asked that question of him on April 8, yes.

Government Operations committee  I didn't ask him that question, no. He offered, as part of an answer to me, that he could find no evidence of any contact or any money flowing from the government as a result of Mr. Jaffer's activities.

Government Operations committee  In the telephone call we had late in the evening of April 8, yes, I would say all of the information he gave me was the first time I had heard that information.

Government Operations committee  I'm not in the position to answer the question of what I did with the information. But if it helps, sir, you can understand that I understood the information Mr. Snowdy was giving me to be highly material to my clients.

Government Operations committee  Yes. He is one of the individuals I mention in my statement.

Government Operations committee  I'm sorry, something may have been lost in translation. I spoke to Mr. Snowdy first on April 8, and then I spoke twice, on the morning of April 9, with Ms. Guergis. Then Mr. Snowdy came to my office. So the two interactions with Mr. Snowdy bookended the two telephone conversati

Government Operations committee  I don't want to play with words. In the week leading up to April 9, I spoke several times with Ms. Guergis on a number of subjects. The telephone call on April 9 was obviously the first time I had a chance to explain to her the allegations that were surfacing.

Government Operations committee  Mr. Snowdy is not my client.

Government Operations committee  Including April 9, I believe we've met face to face four times.

Government Operations committee  I understood Ms. Guergis resigned from cabinet, but be that as it may, all of my face-to-face meetings with him were after her resignation.

Government Operations committee  Let me just respond, because there are at least two principles at play here. There's the positive and the negative of the privilege. If you ask me if I've spoken to ten people in a client's office and I've only spoken to three of them, I won't tell you about those three but I'll

Government Operations committee  Again, that's asking a question that is going to get at privileged information.

Government Operations committee  There were no notes in respect of that.

Government Operations committee  I tracked Mr. Snowdy down by doing a Google search and then found him through one of his existing companies and their answering service. I reached one of his night supervisors, who I implored to have Mr. Snowdy call me back.

Government Operations committee  I have personal notes on the phone call.