Justice committee  I have to respond the same way. The question has no context. I think you have to look at individuals. So in terms of answering with a one-word answer, I'm not able to do that.

Justice committee  I think we're talking at times about two different things as well. Again, the question can't be answered by a one-word answer, I'm sorry.

Justice committee  Thank you, Mr. Chairperson and members of the committee, for the opportunity to speak with you today. My name is Paula Osmok, and I'm the executive director of the John Howard Society of Ontario. I'm here today on behalf of the John Howard Society of Ontario and the John Howard