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Justice committee  It's not a question of it not going far enough, sir. It's a question of it going backwards in a dramatic way and reversing well-established legal principles.

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  It's critical to differentiate between general and specific deterrence. The vast majority of social science literature that challenges deterrence challenges the notion of general deterrence. I can deter you by punishing Mr. MacDonald more severely, but the question of whether I c

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  Speaking only for myself--with the two heads nodding beside me--none of us are legislative drafters. We're practitioners who do this on the front line. I'd certainly be happy to give you my views on behalf of the department, but I'm not a legislative drafter; I'm a practitioner.

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  Two different kinds of considerations would apply when you are having a hearing to determine whether there is an adult sentence. When you are dealing with specific factual allegations--was this planned and deliberate; did you bring a weapon with you; had you been previously warne

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  It's a little bit more complicated than that. This is at page 4 of the paper, the second paragraph from the bottom on page 4. Essentially, the situation is this: if you're released on a very serious charge that you would be eligible for detention on but you're not detained, and t

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  I have bits and pieces of the existing act.

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  That is correct.

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  Aggravating facts relating to the offence or the offender...yes.

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  Certainly. First of all, it's not just me who says that, it's the Ontario Court of Appeal, the Alberta Court of Appeal, and the Quebec Court of Appeal.

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  Well, the decision of the Ontario Court of Appeal was. The decision of the Quebec Court of Appeal straddled D.B. So the Court of Appeal in Quebec decided prior to D.B. There was, however, a leave application to the Supreme Court of Canada after D.B., and the Supreme Court refus

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  And the Alberta Court of Appeal was after.

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  I wonder if I could respond very briefly before my colleague. We saw that in the testimony of some of the witnesses. In fact, at least in Alberta, there is the same accessibility to treatment for someone in remand as a youth as there is for someone serving a youth sentence, so

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes

Justice committee  The difficulty is that we're not simply leaving it open. We're dramatically opening the gateway to that. We're opening it to a whole new range of offences where it's not currently available. The comparison between the youth and the adult sentences is difficult, because the durati

June 17th, 2010Committee meeting

Joshua Hawkes