Industry committee  When the reason for that question is explained—which I think is one of the problems we're dealing with, because we have been so used to having just the questions and not the reasons behind them—I think it would give some benefit to a person in that situation—

Industry committee  —and we're asking that person, therefore, to respond, to give that information so that we can address that question as Canadians.

Industry committee  I might say the fine should be $10.

Industry committee  I think the question is real and has verity, and in order to make it mandatory, you have to have some penalty. If we're talking about jail and $500, we're talking about the extremities of that penality. That's a different question from whether it's mandatory.

Industry committee  I may disagree with jail time, I may disagree with a $500 fine, but I think you have to have something behind a mandatory return that requires people—

Industry committee  It's hard for me to reply to that, as I think it would be for anybody else. We don't like mandatory fines and things like that, but we have certain other instances where we get fined—

Industry committee  I have to stop at a stop sign. If I don't, I risk a fine.

Industry committee  I have no evidence to give you in that regard.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  They're less accurate than the census. But the census doesn't ask those kinds of health questions, so the best we have at the moment is the survey. Mr. Lake indicated, in terms of P.E.I., that you'll have a count, but you won't have any flavour behind that count.

Industry committee  The other information is valid, but when it comes from StatsCan, you have to recognize that they have the ability to look at the census data as a way of correcting bias. If you don't have that kind of census background, you cannot test for bias.

Industry committee  Yes, because they have a different system for getting that information. You have your personal ID card. If you move, you have to register that move. If you go to school, you have to register that with your card, and so on. That's how they map out where people are and the characteristics of people.

Industry committee  Who else?