Procedure and House Affairs committee  When did you learn?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm not going to let her use up my seven minutes—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  —regurgitating her—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  All right.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Through you, Mr. Chairman, was Kairos ever discussed at any cabinet meeting or any subcommittee of cabinet? Was the funding of Kairos ever discussed at any cabinet meeting or any subcommittee of cabinet, yes or no? I don't want cabinet confidences, just yes or no.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Could you ask if we might have one, please?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think we would benefit from a copy of the minister's comments as well. The minister's staff seem to be circulating them to all the media. If they're available to the general public, why doesn't this committee have the benefit of having a copy of it?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  --could I ask the chair to rule on the previous point of order? You offered your apologies. I sensed there was agreement for that course of action. You didn't rule on the relevance of what Mr. Reid seems to be gearing up to, a filibuster type of presentation here. I believe it's

Procedure and House Affairs committee  We haven't heard you apologize.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Agreed.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  On a point of order--

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Mr. Chair, a point of order on relevance.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'd like to question the relevance of my colleague Mr. Reid's debate, as he is supposed to be debating my motion, which is to strike your opening comments from the permanent record of this committee, in that they were biased and unbecoming of the chair. If he wants to debate the

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Mr. Chairman, on the same point, for the supposedly independent chair to try to set the tone of the hearings of this committee even before we hear from the first witness sabotages and undermines the work of this committee. I can't believe, frankly, that you would misuse and abus

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It's one of the most blatant abuses of your office that I've seen any chairman avail themself of.