Justice committee  Yes. What I'm concerned about is having to do that every two years until he dies or until I die.

Justice committee  Yes, it has. The first hearing was right after the 25 years, and then he didn't apply. He didn't apply for the second hearing, but he was in a lot of trouble at that time because he was selling all his paraphernalia to murderauction.com, and the prison came down on him big time.

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  Do you mean within the “every two years”?

Justice committee  Yes. I'm not sure about the 25. I'm not understanding the 25 years.

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  Sure. This notion has been around a long time, as I said. It began some 10 years ago, or in 1997. I think back then it was called “volume discounts” under the Liberal government. This time it's called “discounts”. I think it was really put into context by one of the members of P

Justice committee  No, not at all.

Justice committee  One of the other problems is that they don't seek us out either. They don't ask us any questions at all. They just think we're these angry, vengeful people who should really just go back into our little corners and provide these nice little services. They're saying, you know, “Yo

Justice committee  I would say we represent approximately 1,000 people. It used to be probably more in the 4,000 to 5,000 range, but today I would say it is probably about 1,000. There are more services that have sprung up in provinces across Canada as well.

Justice committee  Oh, very much so. Actually, we probably hear more from them than from the actual victims. Victims are into their own particular set of circumstances.

Justice committee  I could probably show him all of the emails I have received from people from across Canada, just in the past week, that I haven't even begun to be able to answer. They're on Facebook, on.... It's amazing. Oh, I'm sorry. I lost my train of thought there.

Justice committee  How can you do that when you have multiple victims? That's one of the biggest reasons I'm against that approach. In our case, where we feel the discount comes in is that we, the victims' families, feel that once somebody has been charged with one murder, the rest are just thrown

Justice committee  No. What I would like to see is a life sentence. When he was sentenced 29 years ago, he was given life, and that's what I hung on to as Daryn's mom. He was given a life term. I didn't even know about the 15-year parole or the faint hope clause. I didn't know that existed. I didn'

Justice committee  Given the way the law is right now, it is definitely better to be advised. There's no question about that, but what we're asking for in this piece of legislation is for a judge to have the discretion to sentence somebody like Clifford Olson to 260 years before he could ever apply