Justice committee  Absolutely. Again, when you look at the report, we're dealing with very young children in the imagery. There are a number of closed networks of people regularly trading this type of material. As a last comment, it's important to understand too that this becomes like a currency.

Justice committee  I would say yes.

Justice committee  I don't have that exact number, but I can find that.

Justice committee  Sure. When we refer to child pornography, we are being more specific regarding legislation. That's how it's defined, and we provide that clarity. Generally, we will say “child sexual abuse images and material”, which encompass audio, recordings, written material, etc. We use the

Justice committee  Yes. This is a very basic point. With the tip line and the role that we're playing, citizens or online users become the eyes and ears of the Internet. They become a neighbourhood watch—and that's certainly more of a moral suggestion. When we're looking at this, there are many in

Justice committee  We're very careful on that in sourcing the literature. Our agency very much supports that view. In the research document that I've supplied, we source and qualify that point, but there are a number of studies now that make the connection between consumption and viewing of child p

Justice committee  I can give you one really direct example. You can have a family e-mail account. There can be links within an actual e-mail that drive people to the child pornography or child abuse site. We had one report where the public were coming in crying because they'd inadvertently receive

Justice committee  It is possible, however--

Justice committee  Yes, so under this legislation the service providers who come across and become knowing of sites are not going to know jurisdiction, and that's not their job to assess all of that. They would then report to the designated agency that URL and that agency would then take appropriat

Justice committee  We certainly are not in any negotiations at this point surrounding that, to be very direct and honest. Our agency feels that definitely we would want to be considered for that and has made that clear. And getting back, and just really for my opportunity to say this, I think the r

Justice committee  Part of our job is to find out where it is, what jurisdiction it falls in, so we use the various online tools. We'll say, for example, this is sitting on a server in Toronto. We would then send that report to Toronto police. We do not do any investigation; that is a law enforceme

Justice committee  That's correct.

Justice committee  Then we report it to the RCMP's National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre in Ottawa.

Justice committee  They would send it to Interpol, who will make sure it gets to the proper police agency for local investigation.

Justice committee  Yes.