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Transport committee  They don't do a corridor. They're close to operations. If our operations are in Fort Nelson, the trucks are in Fort Nelson. They don't travel, so they're typically return-to-base, out in the field. It's the same with Strathmore. They don't go through a corridor; they return to ba

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  We're working with a number of cities. Calgary is on stream for 200 transit buses. It's a case of putting the infrastructure in the barns, because it's return-to-base.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  I couldn't give you that. That would have to be a business case analysis, but I can tell you that there has been a lot of analysis done in California in looking at the difference between hybrid buses and natural gas vehicle buses, and typically it comes out that the total cost of

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  Let me start. First of all, it's not dependent, because we don't have a product; as a result, the number of conversion vehicles in Canada, as I said, is minuscule compared to the worldwide number of natural gas vehicles. Clearly, if you look at the jurisdictions—and I think t

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  There are two reasons. One is that in North America it was only in 2008 that we started getting a tremendous supply of natural gas, and this supply has decreased the price. Europe is much more environmentally friendly. They do things like the 30% savings on carbon dioxide and 99%

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  We have 14,000. We're starting to see price sensitivity with the abundance of natural gas. That's why the OEMs are starting to move in that direction. There's been a tremendous push since the “Blueprint for a Secure Energy Future” in the U.S. and the executive order to have all

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  I have some graphs for you in my handout. It's GGE, gasoline gallon equivalent.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  It depends on the jurisdiction and the utility. Some are regulated and some are not.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  Absolutely.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  We have 160 trucks operating on natural gas right now, and those are conversions. Those are not OEMs.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  We don't have a very large fleet of our own because we have a lot of contractors, so I can't give you the total number of trucks we have. We have been looking at converting as many trucks as we can.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  In regard to training, if you look at Chrysler, they're already rolling out training for all their mechanics at all the dealers across Canada, because they're introducing a new product. In terms of the issues, clearly there's a big difference between propane and natural gas. Natu

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  First of all, for the station, you're looking at between $1 million and $1.3 million in terms of what we've done with Strathmore and some of our stations in the U.S. In terms of the mobile refueller, I'd have to get back to you on the specific costs because we're looking at some

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  The conversion costs are typically $8,000 to $12,000. Of that, 40% is the cost of the tank. The difference in cost from $8,000 to $12,000 is roughly the difference between using steel tanks and carbon fibre. It's more expensive for the carbon fibre, but it is lighter. If I can j

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw

Transport committee  We typically say that there's a three-year buyout if you start looking at OEM vehicles and so forth. We've seen between $5,000 and $7,000 in savings for some of our pickup trucks. They're operating up north, in Fort Nelson.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Dr. Sam Shaw