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Finance committee  Yes, that would be.

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  Technically, yes, but that's not the issue. It becomes difficult for SMEs or firms of any size--typically wineries are considered within the SME category--to develop a business model that could effectively leverage the opportunity for direct delivery wine sales. The Importation

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  That's right. If consumers in Quebec wanted to order Ontario wine online, for instance, and went on the winery's website and asked to order it, they wouldn't be able to have that wine delivered to them, because--

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  No, he can't buy it through the LCBO and take it to Quebec, because that would technically be considered illegal. It is a technicality, but it does become difficult for a business to say that although it's technically illegal, they're going to design it so that--

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  That's right. They can sell it through the SAQ, but the issue becomes the markups associated with it. Certainly that might be one venue that a winery might decide to go with, either through the SAQ or the LCBO, but the concern has been the markups associated with it when they do

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  I'm not aware of any of the exemptions that exist, associated with the act. My understanding was that the existence of the act covered all sectors. The beer industry hasn't necessarily indicated one way or the other, but I know that from a SME perspective, it's--

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  Absolutely. As I mentioned--

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  It's more of a coordination piece. The Intoxicating Liquors Act is a federal piece of legislation, while the provincial boards, the points of sale, are provincial bodies. There is an impetus from the business community—as Mr. Brison mentioned, as I mentioned, and as Mr. Dykstra m

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  That's correct. The CMA, the Canadian Manufacturers' Association, pegs the total cost of interprovincial trade barriers at about $6.5 billion a year, of which the interprovincial trade barriers related to wine and agriculture take up approximately $1.5 billion. As far as the opp

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  Our first recommendation, as we already talked about, is the feasibility of a permit and reporting system. One of the biggest challenges that's been raised, particularly by the provincial liquor boards, is how there will be some monitoring and tracking of the interprovincial trad

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  Certainly. There are multiple elements to interprovincial trade barriers. From the perspective of the Niagara community, the B.C. wine community, and the emerging markets out there, it's important that this become one of the key steps forward as far as interprovincial trade barri

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia

Finance committee  Good morning. The St. Catharines-Thorold Chamber of Commerce is located in the heart of Niagara, for a bit of geographical reference, in Ontario's wine country. It's one of the largest chambers in southern Ontario and represents a large breadth of businesses of different sizes.

October 19th, 2010Committee meeting

Kithio Mwanzia