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Citizenship and Immigration committee  If I may add to that--because as a lawyer it appeals to me that natural justice questions have been asked by members of this committee--beyond the discipline council's decision, there is an appeals level that is completely independent from the first one; different decision-makers

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  We are constantly holding discussions, not only with the Government of Quebec, but also with the governments of various other provinces that do not even have immigration legislation, but that do have rather specific problems, such as the recruitment of foreign workers and employm

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That was the very basis for our discussions with the Government of Quebec, as we recognize the distinctiveness of the Quebec legislation.

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Following our discussions with the Government of Quebec, an enhanced exam was developed specifically to take into account the distinctiveness of the Quebec legislation. In addition, over the last few years, we have been including the study of Quebec legislation in our regular cur

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It's hard to react to allegations that are so broad. Our society needs offices to do its work. Those offices have to be adequate and suitable. This is the first time I've heard the logo being attacked this way. It's just a logo. I can't tell you...

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, they were CSIC members. However, the society's transition period should be taken into account. In 2004, when CSIC was recognized by the federal government, it—

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  We were more generous. We did not have a grandfather clause. Our eligibility criteria were fairly open and flexible, but they were conditional on successful completion of a written exam about 24 months after admission. Once the exam results were known, we had to shut out almost 8

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I don't think the two concepts are opposite, one to the other. As members of the bar, as lawyers, we have a duty to preserve the integrity of the regulatory system and the legislation.

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It's a professional duty. We are officers of the court. So our members of the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants, in their own code of conduct, have a similar duty to preserve the integrity of the immigration system through the policy, the regulations, and the legislatio

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I heard the recordings of the previous session, and your word is well qualified. I think it would be semantics rather than anything else.

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It has always been an irritant to us, and I think it's systemic rather than a lack of opportunity that any of the bodies have taken. The Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants was a new body in a very new environment aiming to regulate consultants, not just based in Canada

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I would add that we also see an increasing number of young students getting interested in the profession and actually following the cursus. So we're not just talking about the ghost consultants joining the fray but also individuals in their twenties actually making it a professio

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Certainly. I have not heard any recent complaints regarding this.

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I can't say that I have participated in all the discussions with the Government of Quebec. I would be glad to get back to this issue later on, if you like.

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet

Citizenship and Immigration committee  As a member of the French community sitting on the board of directors, I have always taken language-related issues to heart, especially when the society was first established. Whenever documents were translated, I made a point of ensuring that they were not just translated, but t

October 18th, 2010Committee meeting

Patrice Brunet