Citizenship and Immigration committee  I agree, yes.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I....

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, they advertise, and it's by word of mouth. When they are able to bring somebody in successfully, people find out about it.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  They do, yes, even though they're not registered.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  But these ghost consultants are not here in Canada.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, it might.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Okay. The way I see the bill, it's trying to regulate CSIC. I may be wrong.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, I agree.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, I like that part. I'm not a big fan of CSIC. I know what their problems are.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That's right, but I do agree that the bill may be able to regulate them. All I'm saying is that it will not regulate the ghost consultants.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  They will if you find them.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  That's true.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I don't mean any disrespect, but I don't agree. If the title of the bill were about cracking down on CSIC and the industry itself, the immigration consultants, perhaps, but when the title of the bill is about cracking down on ghost consultants--

Citizenship and Immigration committee  In the last couple of years, there have been more. I don't really have numbers, but they're significant enough for it to cause a problem or to cause some concern.