Information & Ethics committee  That represents 300 complaints where the personal information exemption was applied, which represents about half of all the exemption complaints that we have.

Information & Ethics committee  Exemption complaints dealing with national security, investigations....

Information & Ethics committee  They contain a personal exemption application.

Information & Ethics committee  They would have other exemptions, but they would have that one.

Information & Ethics committee  Since I've been commissioner, we've had 13,000 investigations overall. Over the years that I've been commissioner, the office has completed slightly over 13,000 cases.

Information & Ethics committee  That's writ large. That includes all types of investigations.

Information & Ethics committee  No. There were seven cases in which we made formal recommendations. That means at the last level. These are cases where we did not resolve the investigations. The point I'm making is that of all the cases that involve a personal information exemption, there are very few in which

Information & Ethics committee  Correct. Actually, five of those were eventually resolved. Only two went to court.

Information & Ethics committee  I disagree with that statement from the Privacy Commissioner. The Information Commissioner and the Privacy Commissioner are regulators. We have to apply the law, as I stated. The personal exemption in the Access to Information Act is a law. It's a provision in a law that is very

Information & Ethics committee  But we always do it. That's the point—

Information & Ethics committee  We have to do it under the current legislation—

Information & Ethics committee  But that is the legal answer, sir. It's the legal answer. When I apply the exemption for personal information, I have to apply the definition of personal information. I have to respect what the personal information exemption—

Information & Ethics committee  —states in the act. I can't just supersede that.

Information & Ethics committee  I disagree with his comments that the current Bill C-58 changes the interpretation of the personal information exemption or changes the balance between access to information and the privacy of information.

Information & Ethics committee  I think you should ask him that.