Veterans Affairs committee  Or their travel....

Veterans Affairs committee  They pay, and then they're reimbursed.

Veterans Affairs committee  No, that's not accurate. This is part of the rehabilitation program, and there is medical rehabilitation, psycho-social, and vocational. When someone is referred and it's deemed that a person is ready for vocational rehabilitation, we have external providers, vocational--

Veterans Affairs committee  That is a discussion between the client and the case manager and often the interdisciplinary team.

Veterans Affairs committee  But it--

Veterans Affairs committee  But they are part of that discussion. They are clients. They work with the case managers. They are part of that discussion. They have input into it. Perhaps sometimes the case manager and the interdisciplinary team and all the treatment providers have information about the clie

Veterans Affairs committee  And on an individual basis, an area councillor—they're now called case managers—can talk to their managers, to their client service team managers. And if something can't be resolved, then they will bring it to their district directors. And if it can't be resolved there, then it g

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes, we do take into consideration the impact that someone who has suicidal ideas.... They probably have a whole lot of issues going on, and the case managers do ensure that the family of someone who is thinking of suicide is getting support. The case manager helps look after the

Veterans Affairs committee  I also understood you to say, around support for the families, you were interested in that?

Veterans Affairs committee  And in all fairness, the veterans who are post-Korea are eligible for the new Veterans Charter program, so as Janice said, it's a matter of the outreach to them. But we've had a great uptake by them.

Veterans Affairs committee  Good questions.

Veterans Affairs committee  Absolutely, that is one of the recommendations of our suicide prevention review. We do need to follow up with the clinicians and have better communication between us and the people who are treating clients so that we communicate with each other if someone's at risk for suicide, h

Veterans Affairs committee  The information we have is anecdotal. We hear from the district office staff who hear from the treating clinicians that people have died from suicide, but at this point we don't have a mechanism for recording that, and this certainly is one of the recommendations we have for ongo