Government Operations committee  He got angry in 2008.

Government Operations committee  It was given significant importance. As I said to your colleagues, I was briefed at least quarterly on where things stood. It was important because there were vast sums of money being spent on the renovation.

Government Operations committee  I think so. He's the one who was head of real property.

Government Operations committee  I don't know him, Mr. Coderre. That tells you that I might not have been a good political minister, but he's not someone that I knew.

Government Operations committee  No, but it's interesting that you've pointed that out to me. I had one at the very start, and I intended to have them regularly. I gave a breakfast at the very start and that gentleman was not there. We didn't hold any others after that.

Government Operations committee  Yes, they had plan Bs. In some respects, the timetables were going to be extended because I don't remember that we had any problems finding rental space to rehouse people who are here. So that slowed us down. That's one of the big problems we were facing, as I remember it.

Government Operations committee  It was the head of the department's real property division.

Government Operations committee  From memory, it was Tim McGrath. A team supported him because the department's real property division is enormous. As regards that aspect of real property, he had colleagues, but their names escape me. However, he was not all alone. There were three or four of them.

Government Operations committee  No, there wasn't really any talk about the RFPs. It was explained to us, for example, that we had been told three months earlier that we had to lease so many square feet in order to rehouse the MPs, and we were told whether we had managed to do so or not. We were also told that

Government Operations committee  With no one. Someone from my office here in Ottawa attended the briefings, which were always given in Ottawa.

Government Operations committee  No, not at all.

Government Operations committee  It was either my chief of staff or one of the assistants who had been assigned to the real property issue. Was it Neil Brodie or my chief of staff himself? I don't remember.

Government Operations committee  I had two during that time. I had Mr. Loiselle and Mr. Claude... Oh, he won't be pleased.

Government Operations committee  His name is Claude.

Government Operations committee  Yes.