Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Yes.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  I think the point that really needs to be emphasized is that it's about having that producer of content have the ability to make that choice, not have that choice expropriated from them.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  There are times when you want to send your content far and wide to create interest, and then there are times when you want to monetize that content once that interest has been created.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Yes.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Again, it's very difficult to do. What we know is that it's largely anecdotal. You'll see copies of popular movies like Bon Cop, Bad Cop show up in these large flea markets where they're clearly pirated copies and they're selling. How do we quantify that? Again, it's difficult, quite bluntly, for the Canadian industry to fund the kind of study that would be necessary to truly quantify that.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Again, it's all about unintended consequences. If everything can be called an educational experience, then the exemption is meaningless.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  I believe it's 127.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  The revenue derived from those sales is an integral part of the financing of those shows. In other words, those international sales are often pre-sold ahead of production, and they create the revenue that allows production to take place. Without those revenues, you're either going to have no Canadian production or a reduced quality of Canadian production.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Yes. It is very important.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  If I might, and I'll let Reynolds comment with more specificity, I think that's why we set out the five priorities in our oral presentation. Those really are the key areas if we're going to be successful. I think the bill goes a long way in addressing these. In some respects, it needs to be strengthened.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  As we said, Mr. Angus, I do not think Canada has a culture of suing kids for doing something like that. I think the work of this committee, the work of this government, and this whole discussion brings about public debate on this very issue and a broader understanding, hopefully, in the minds of all consumers, particularly young consumers, of the activities they're undertaking and that they're not of neutral effect.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  I guess if I were the performer, I might view it differently. I think I've been partially paid at the time of production, and I'm waiting to be partially paid; the other part of my payment will come after the product has been distributed. I guess the concern, if we have some TPMs, is that I'm not going to see those second payments.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Quite simply, if you're an international distributor of a Canadian film or television program, you're not going to want to buy that program, you're not going to want to pay the Canadian company, if it's already in the world. If it's already gone into the world for free, why would you pay that Canadian company for those rights?

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Again, we're not looking to make a bunch of lawyers--

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  I think that gets back to Mr. Del Mastro's point. What we're hoping is that this bill will have sufficient specificity to eliminate the need for that kind of litigation and to make it very clear, whether we import certain tests into the bill or otherwise, that there is a copyright attached to the use of copyrighted materials in an educational context.