Justice committee  Yes, I can, specifically on the first one—and I'll get back to the other member's comment about indecent acts . What I'm speaking to you about is very tame, because I live in a very ugly world. What happens in a practical application of what's going on is that in Internet luring

Justice committee  No.

Justice committee  I can support that comment. As somebody who lives in that world by virtue of my occupation, I think these offenders are like-minded individuals, and as my colleague said, they try to normalize their behaviour. Speaking on deterrence, I can also say that intercepting and chattin

Justice committee  I'm 100% sure.

Justice committee  No, I don't.

Justice committee  What I can tell you from an investigative perspective is that is an undercover technique that is used on a daily basis. There are online undercover police officers posing as fictitious eight-, nine-, ten-, eleven-year-old girls and boys on a daily basis, trying to trap and lure t

Justice committee  No, I'd have to disagree with that. With the advent of the Internet, and with social networking and portable devices that are out there now, the making of child pornography in Canada is on the increase, hugely on the increase.

Justice committee  I've heard some statistics from my friend here. Just in the provincial strategy alone in Ontario, in the last year and a half we've rescued 121 child victims. That would be 121 child victims of child pornography--of being a victim of having child pornography made of them.

Justice committee  All in Ontario.

Justice committee  That's exactly what I meant. With the Internet service providers we deal with right now, we are handcuffed in the work we do--getting law enforcement requests, warrants, and things like that--to find out who is actually perpetrating these offences, or behind these offences. Some

Justice committee  It was good legislation, in my opinion. Yes.

Justice committee  Thank you. Just by way of introduction, my name is Scott Naylor, and I'm the manager of the child sexual exploitation section with the Ontario Provincial Police. I will be reading from some notes here. Mr. Chair, Madam Clerk, and justice sector colleagues, good afternoon. Thank