Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  And unfortunately I'm in finance, not social services, so it's a bit difficult. It's hard sometimes to compare apples and oranges, and on the provincial system they would have programs that we just do not have access to. They have family resource centres in communities. They have food banks.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  No. There were discussions around the funding we would get from the model, but they had already determined how much it was, and it wasn't based on any practical or real need, but just on how much they decided they would give us. It was a done deal before we even started theoretically negotiating.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  With the enhanced model, no, we can't provide equitable services. The enhanced model merely brought us up to about the 2007 standard, and we're now in 2011. So, no, we don't have sufficient funds. We're short-staffed, and we're still experiencing difficulties. Yes, we are still having problems with Jordan's Principle as to who will pay, particularly in Nova Scotia, between Health and INAC.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Even the feds and the feds will squabble.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Yes.