Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  At a voluntary level, there were discussions between part of the content industry and the Canadian ISP community, both cable ISPs and—

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  —rights holders, together with Canadian ISPs. No agreement per se was ever achieved, but rather a sense from some Canadian ISPs that if we receive them, we would pass them on. There was no MOU or anything signed. We didn't even agree on the content of the notice, but rather if we

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  It happened just as I said. There was no more to it than that, no discussion about form or anything.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  I don't think we...

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Likewise, yes.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Maybe I could clarify, Monsieur Rodriguez, when you talk about “envelope”. When we say we do it manually, it means the notice is actually viewed by someone electronically, linked up to the customer, and then someone hits the “send” button. We don't actually send a letter to the h

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  We haven't received any requests like that from content owners.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  Well, typically when you go to court a plaintiff would reach out to a third party. We're an uninterested third party, so typically a plaintiff would reach out to us in advance of that. We haven't received any requests or any motions to go to court on that.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  We do watch what happens in the United States.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  I don't know.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  For over 10 years we have voluntarily, and for free, been receiving and processing what we can with the systems we have. Some have automated more; some have not. Originally they were all being processed. But there was also some kind of dialogue with the ISP and the content owner.

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  You make a very valid point, Mr. Angus. It's been very much a cat-and-mouse game, unfortunately. We'd very much like to get to a place where we can be processing them all, receiving them in a consistent fashion, have government fee schedules so that the appropriate fees are set u

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  If there are obligations under the legislation, we are obviously going to comply with them and make the necessary technical changes. That being said, it doesn't mean there will no longer be notices. What we are seeing at the moment is that there is no discipline on the market in

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  At Bell we're somewhere in between the two, or maybe I should say we're at the other side of TELUS. When we started the voluntary notice and notice regime about a decade ago, we were receiving a handful of notices a month from content owners. We had a manual process. We continue

Bill C-32 (40th Parliament, 3rd Session) committee  I can go first. At Bell—I imagine the same goes for my colleagues—we support the clauses in Bill C-32 that will make things easier. That's what we call “enablers”. We are in support of those clauses. But some people say that the measures should be a bit stricter so that it is a