Status of Women committee  I just want to add that I think part of the problem is in rural areas. I live in a huge city, and I train social workers, and they work with the police, nursing, medicine, and even the coroner. It's not always about the victim. It's more about how we can keep this person in their

Status of Women committee  Could I just say, though, that the evidence on gender is mixed? That is why Gloria says.... That's the reason: it's mixed. If we could get our research done, we would know for sure, and I'm sure it's that the women are targeted.

Status of Women committee  There are more women.

Status of Women committee  There are more women, so more women are abused. But one thing we do know for a fact from the research is that when women are abused it's far worse than when it happens to men.

Status of Women committee  No, no, I noticed that myself.

Status of Women committee  No, we're on the same team--

Status of Women committee  The point I'm making is that we don't really know, research-wise. We're gerontologists. We know, but we don't have it tightly proven--

Status of Women committee  --and that's what we need to do.

Status of Women committee  Absolutely: that's the whole point of what we're trying to do. I would add--Charmaine knows about this, too--that part of this definitional issue is that we took all the definitions that are used in all the provinces, reviewed the case laws, which is what you do when you're a

Status of Women committee  Yes. We were quite shocked. But it's not a random sample at this point, so I wouldn't like to say that.

Status of Women committee  There's a cycle of violence, caregiver stress, and the situation model, which means you're in a bad situation, so you'd be person who would steal their money, and...[Technical Difficulty--Editor].

Status of Women committee  Yes. Actually, it's a really exciting project. You do have a lot of the financial literacy tools that we've developed. First, we trained trainers. We trained older women themselves around the whole issue of financial competency, knowledge, and abuse. We have several tools on fin

Status of Women committee  There are about seven different theories that have been offered to explain elder abuse. From what Gloria was talking about, the family stress model, which is flat-out wrong, through to intergenerational violence, the cycle of violence, that if you were abused as a child you're go

Status of Women committee  I'm going to try not to speak to what has already been said. I would like to thank you for inviting me here as a witness, and I would like to commend the committee for looking at a very serious issue that has been hidden for a very long time. I am the director of the Institute