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Public Safety committee  I think it's pretty tough to motivate somebody and make somebody take a drug treatment program. You'll see people who get sentenced in court, and part of their sentence is to abstain from alcohol. If they're outside and they're an addict, that's usually a recipe for disaster. Al

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  Well, if you're talking about gangs causing violence within the prison, gangs are funded. They live off the drug trade and prostitution. Again, in our correctional centre we've had the occasional gang member, usually somebody who's come to the territory from the south. But for t

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  It's a battle forever, I believe, and I base that statement on the fact that I've spoken to many recovering alcoholics and drug addicts. Alcoholics will never tell you that they're not alcoholics any more. They always say they're a recovering alcoholic. It's the same with drug ad

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  They sell the drugs. If you have an illegal substance inside a jail or penitentiary, that illegal substance gives you power. They don't have money, as such, passing back and forth. Even cigarettes can be a powerful weapon. You have control. An addicted smoker will do practicall

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  To reduce the demand?

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  Well, if you had effective drug rehabilitation within the prisons, and people were buying into those programs, then the demand, I would think, obviously would decrease.

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  Well, I've seen that many times. Just recently, we had a young fellow and his wife who were dealing drugs for another person. They got sick and tired of it. They quit dealing drugs, they quit doing drugs, they went cold turkey, and they were doing pretty well for about six weeks.

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  We have to appreciate we're talking about Whitehorse, which has a very small population. There is a criminal element, and there is somewhat of an organization to it. But I don't think there are gangs, as such, in our jail. There are bullies, who have a lot of power and influence

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  I would agree with that totally. Back in those days, as I recall, there wasn't much happening. I see programs happening today. As you said, we never do enough, but we do try to move forward. I agree with your statement.

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  Back in the day, there was marijuana, heroin, LSD, and these types of drugs. Heroin was usually set aside for the skid row heroin addict. There was marijuana. Alcohol was always there. You would see, working with young people and older people as well, that people might have a cou

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  I have to apologize. I didn't get the question.

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  I don't know, specifically, the answer to that question. I shouldn't be talking about Bill C-10, which I've not read. It's going to increase the prison population, or some people believe it is. I don't know if that's true or not. Again, I don't know. I'm not working in a correcti

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  I think they are definitely a deterrent. I can't imagine being a superintendent of a correctional facility anywhere and allowing friends or family members to have free rein, just coming and going as they please and not being checked or searched. Would it have stopped my son? Pro

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  I think it should be on par with.... Here, I'm not 100% clear. If people are bringing it in and they get caught, I believe they're dealt with internally through an internal process of the correctional facilities. It should at least be on par I think with the criminal court system

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam

Public Safety committee  Are you talking about X-rays and full-body scanners?

November 1st, 2011Committee meeting

Kenneth Putnam