Fisheries committee  I'm doing okay.

Fisheries committee  Yes, but here not in Canada--

Fisheries committee  Yes, it can go through what we call a constructed wetland, so it's a marsh. It goes back into a marsh, basically, and then it percolates back into the ground table.

Fisheries committee  Right now there are a lot of NGOs and organizations that offer this certification. For example, at SweetSpring Salmon in the State of Washington--I designed their farm--they have the first double green certification from the Monterey Bay Aquarium, so they're fully certified under that program.

Fisheries committee  Very much so.

Fisheries committee  I agree--and also public opinion. Unfortunately, net-pen farms have lost the public's confidence.

Fisheries committee  Basically yes, as long as the land price is not exorbitant.

Fisheries committee  I agree. You're welcome.

Fisheries committee  You're very welcome. Thanks for having me.

Fisheries committee  When politics gets into it, it's bad.

Fisheries committee  It's 100 feet wide and 250 feet long. Fifty feet of that is the processing plant, so basically the plant went into a hundred by two hundred feet--half an acre.

Fisheries committee  Every farm is different. That was designed for 160 tonnes. So to scale it up, they could build another facility right beside it or from scratch and they could do 500 tonnes or 1,000 tonnes. We would have a slightly different layout, but it's totally scalable. I can do 10 tonnes, 50 tonnes, or 10,000 tonnes.

Fisheries committee  No. It sells for around $2.50 a pound at the lowest market value. I think the cost was around $2.17 a pound, so it's pretty close. There are specialty markets where you may get a premium price for the Atlantics, but right now it would be hard to do, I think, because a dollar is a dollar and most people will not spend that premium.

Fisheries committee  Chile does coho, but they're thousands of miles away from the market. Go back to the 100-mile diet. We can set up close to the markets, which is going to cut down our transport cost. We're not producing 100,000 tonnes. In B.C., we're only producing possibly 10,000 tonnes. In Japan, there's interest in building 10,000-tonne farms.

Fisheries committee  So yes, it's going to be hard if we legislate our net pens on land.