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Transport committee  The first thing the industry did was form the Canadian Propane Association. We're a new industry association based in Ottawa, with offices across Canada. It's education; it really boils down to industry getting out there and telling individuals like yourselves about the options a

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  It does not currently exist in many places in Canada. There are a couple of examples—British Columbia has a couple—but you don't see a lot of it. Typically, you see—

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  Well, sure it would. If you've got a propane tank at your house, you could fill from the existing infrastructure.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  The back half of your question is easier to deal with than the front half. The best prices offered to the consumer are usually the market prices. Competition usually dictates the best price for the consumer at the end of the day. Where there are more players in the market, you

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  It's done now. You can actually put together a propane grid for a residential community. You won't see the tank in your home. When you turn on your dryer, your fireplace, or your cooktop, it's all on propane. It's perfectly safe. It comes in as a liquid, like anything else, just

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  Not necessarily. It doesn't have to be. It could be off-site.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  Basically a suburban neighbourhood today has a grid that fuels the neighbourhood. You don't see the spaghetti piping of natural gas. Propane would be the same thing. The fuel tank would be off-site somewhere else. You wouldn't see it. There could be a network right under the home

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  It is minimal. There are few, actually. The tradition in Canada has been that people have perceived propane as a means to an end, not an end unto itself, not as a solution. To be honest, we're trying to change that and position propane as a solution, because it can do everything

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  Mr. Chair, any time you mishandle any fuel, you're going to have an accident. What happened at a facility in Toronto was probably the result of some things not being done as they should have been done. It should not paint the industry or the players that are there today, or the p

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  In the province of today, every propane facility of any size must have something called a risk and safety management plan. There are two types: one for larger facilities that have more than 5,000 U.S. water gallons on site, and one for those that have less than 5,000 U.S. water g

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  Propane is not a regulated utility, by and large, so the market dictates the price of the propane.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  I'll get back to you with a more complete answer on the marine and rail applications. I don't have any data in front of me at the moment.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  They set those standards under the Canadian Standards Association. It is the same with propane vehicles they bring into Canada. Jurisdiction over the adoption of those regulations is different not only federally but provincially as well. It's a bit of a mishmash of standards acro

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  Yes, it's a simple process. You take it off the pump, you put it in the part of the car that requires the fuel, and you hold it there. There are built-in valves and mechanisms that shut off the propane when it's full, which for any propane container is no more than 80%.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette

Transport committee  They're essentially filling stations, but a certified individual must do the filling, just as they had to do 35 or 40 years ago.

March 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Jim Facette