National Defence committee  I'm afraid I don't have those figures with me. I could provide them, though, at another time.

National Defence committee  Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair. I wonder if I could make two or three quick contextual points and then get to the answer. I just want to point out that between 2005 and 2011 the number of civilians at DND increased by 30%, or 5,000 people, and not without reason. It was

National Defence committee  Thank you very much for this question, Mr. Chair. I believe that on November 16 the President of the Treasury Board put out an update on where the government as a whole was on FTE reductions. As part of that release, the president identified that 1,621 full-time positions from D