Transport committee  I think the fact that they are willing to order these numbers, on top of their existing fleets, says that they're still comfortable with it.

Transport committee  That hundred years is based on current usage today, and without finding any more gas at all. And we know that's not a likely scenario.

Transport committee  All indications we've had from the gas suppliers is that they know there is considerably more gas out there but it's just not economical to get it just yet. If the demand increases because of the increased number of vehicles, then they'd be willing to go look for the rest of it.

Transport committee  There's a big difference. I mentioned earlier on, in 2007 a new engine came out from Cummins Westport, so from a bus perspective that was a real step change in terms of performance and in terms of what people saw from CNG buses as a fleet. So for the older buses the performance w

Transport committee  The P3 application will be submitted in June this year.

Transport committee  I'm unsure, to be perfectly honest, what the P3 approval timeline is. The reason our timeline of 2015 can be so aggressive is that we already own the land. We have land identified, and it's already transportation land within the city of Calgary.

Transport committee  We need to build a bus facility anyway, but we're going to make this facility CNG compliant and allow it to do CNG fuelling. If the trial works out unfavourably, there is minimal risk in terms of the actual building changes that need to be made.

Transport committee  As was mentioned, we have started down that path as the City of Calgary, independently. We have a certain amount of our budget available for new vehicle procurement, which we are earmarking now for CNG bus procurement. We are looking at the P3 model in terms of building the facil

Transport committee  That's correct. There are emissions from a CNG bus—

Transport committee  From what I understand, that's shale gas development. The 100 years is based on what's available today. From all the information we've received so far, the reserves far exceed what we know we have today. That 100 years is very pessimistic, almost.

Transport committee  That seems to be easier to say than to achieve sometimes.

Transport committee  In essence, we're doing that now. We are trying to move ahead with a CNG facility. We are trying to move ahead with transitioning to 400 CNG buses. We are making a commitment to do that within the City of Calgary, and that is being done at the moment without any federal assistanc

Transport committee  The CNG premium?

Transport committee  It's $400,000 for a bus.

Transport committee  Part of it would be our commitment to the environment. The city is taking the risk at this point in terms of adopting a new technology. It's not that the funding is coming exclusively from the federal government; the money is still coming from the city, essentially, and there is