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Public Safety committee  It is not really location-based; it's more the size of the planes. Planes with fewer than 20 passengers are exempt from the passenger protect program. Every other plane and every other carrier need to screen their manifest for the specified persons list under the passenger protec

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  To echo your comment, we just got this five minutes ago—Public Safety, on the policy lead with Justice—and hadn't a lot of time to look at it. A gut reaction is that this already happens. Transport Canada already works hand in glove with CATSA . Adding a legislative amendment l

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  Absolutely, and I think it would depend on the situation and on how that jurisdiction was managed in terms of law enforcement. I would like to clarify, though, that obviously if someone is dangerous and is showing up in an airport, law enforcement and intelligence agencies ofte

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  Yes, I believe that's correct.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I'll just say that I think the current penalty is prescribed in regulations. It hasn't been updated in a long time. As you've said, it's important to get the incentives right, given the seriousness of the offence.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  No. In the amendment to the act it's at $500,000. The current one is much lower. I'm not sure....

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  We'll have to get back to you on that.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  That's right.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I'm not able to do that. We may be able to find the fine for you; we're just going through the regs. Again, Transport Canada would have to give you a bit more of the history on how many times that fine has been used.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I think we discussed this earlier. The threshold is reasonable grounds to suspect that an individual would be a threat to transportation security or the other provisions in the act linked to terrorist travel that are defined in the Criminal Code. So it's reasonable grounds to sus

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  We've been able to discuss this with our Transport colleagues. They do not believe legislation is necessary. If required, something like that could be done in regulation.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  A lot of work and a very long time went into developing the bill with Transport Canada and with all the national security communities. It was not recommended that this go into the bill. One issue that you would have is that on international inbound flights, CATSA has no authority

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  Yes. Not New Zealand, but the others, Australia, U.K., U.S., absolutely have equivalent powers. The minister mentioned that in his remarks when he was at the committee.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  Just to be clear, I'm from Public Safety, as is Ms. Banerjee. Mr. Duffy is from Justice.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies

Public Safety committee  I think it would have a massive negative operational impact to only allow the Service to undertake activities that are illegal. Without any recognition of the impact on the Charter and so on, it's not clear that it would be worth moving forward with the bill.

March 31st, 2015Committee meeting

John Davies