Natural Resources committee  Right. You can. That's fair.

Natural Resources committee  Across every side of the House, there have been mills in ridings from every political party that have benefited tremendously from the pulp and paper green transformation program. I do want to make that clear. I don't think we should make it a political agenda. The investments w

Natural Resources committee  One of the things that we're really for, specific to your question, is consistency of approach. As many of you around this table are business people, you probably know that one of the things that kills investment and kills businesses is a lack of predictability and consistency. F

Natural Resources committee  It is. Ideally, we'd keep the pulp mills running and we'd diversify the mix of products they make so that everybody keeps running. That's the real vision behind bio-pathways. If you take any of your existing forest industry assets, be it a sawmill, a pulp mill, an integrated pap

Natural Resources committee  I'd be very happy to.

Natural Resources committee  Do you know what we really liked about PPGTP? We liked the creativity behind it. It would have been really easy for any government to respond to the competitive distortions we were seeing in the marketplace with just a quick fix-it, slapdash subsidy like you saw in the U.S. Ins

Natural Resources committee  Yes. It gets back to my commentary during my appearance here, that in fact the type of support we need is the one that's across that valley of death, more things like the IFIT program. That was a very small $100-million program. We had $2.2 billion in interest from the industry s

Natural Resources committee  It's actually measured in a number of ways. Are we accessing new markets from yesterday? Are we basically solidifying our global competitive position in those new markets? Are we producing more value from the forests? I've mentioned that we're a $57-billion industry today. I'm

Natural Resources committee  No.

Natural Resources committee  Right. In fact, with the increase in set-asides, etc., we may be cutting less. I'll have to check, but for sure we are basing this on the residuals without cutting an additional extra tree.

Natural Resources committee  Sure.

Natural Resources committee  We believe it could be done by a regulation under the Income Tax Act.

Natural Resources committee  I definitely believe that economics drives the answer to that question. For example, could we make the forest-based biochemicals in Sarnia instead of in Thunder Bay? Probably we couldn't afford to get the woody debris to Sarnia. Is that the nature of your question?

Natural Resources committee  Yes, okay. The interesting thing is that we can produce the chemical at the pulp mill in Thunder Bay, so why wouldn't we? Why would we transport all that material? This is the type of elaboration that you have to do. Economics definitely drives.... As you may have heard, FPAC

Natural Resources committee  I'm not really equipped to answer that question. Whether shipping—