Industry committee  We do have some suggestions in mind. We didn't intend to discuss them today, simply because we didn't feel that we were getting into that level of detail. As I mentioned earlier, in terms of general notions I think patent expertise is really important. What fits into that is having the right expertise to do the search and examination work that is required at CIPO.

Industry committee  Perhaps I can speak to your questions. In terms of the ability to patent software and the ability to patent business methods, I think every country has its own set of rules when it comes to patent eligibility. Canada is no different. There have been some rules that have been put in place.

Industry committee  We do have some suggestions. We didn't intend to cover them today, but we do have some general notions that we believe in. One of them, which I spoke about earlier, is this notion of having an opportunity to question the validity of the patent after it issues. That's really important to us.

Industry committee  Patent trolls are an interesting phenomenon. Again, in line with the comments I made earlier, depending on the jurisdiction, depending on the IP regime you're dealing with, there will be a different set of constraints, a different set of rules. Companies such as patent trolls will often look at these rules to try to use them to their advantage.

Industry committee  Maybe I could speak to that. What we mean by that statement is that every patent system has its shortcomings and a certain number of constraints. When we look at RIM's history with NTP specifically, RIM has faced a number of challenges in the past in relation to how certain IP rights are enforced.