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Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I would like to add something. I am going to do so in English, I am sorry. First of all, Manfred Nowak raised this issue a couple of times in his report, asking for China to explain the discrepancy between volume of transplants and volume of identified sources. That was picked u

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I can add something to that. Transplant tourism into China has definitely decreased since our report came out. In fact, it's not just Australia and other countries that have cut down on it; the Government of China itself has come out against it and said they are giving priority

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  The Chinese government set up a donation process in 2010 as a pilot project. In the first year, I think they had 37 donations. There were more people working on donations than there were donations. The numbers picked up in the second year; I think there were 1,600. Of course, t

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Well, it's not the only way, but in China the military is a business. The military, as a business, sells organs. It's not their only source of money, but it's a big source. In fact, there was a military hospital that had on its website, “Selling organs is our main source of funds

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  When we're dealing with foreign investment approval guidelines, I would say also that the net benefit criteria, or whatever the criteria are, should include that if you're going to be approved for an investment in Canada, you have to respect human rights abroad, acknowledge past

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  You were asking about what's going on in forced labour camps. Of course, the Chinese government doesn't tell you that. They won't allow the Red Cross or anybody from outside into these camps. There's no reporting. There are no NGOs. They don't tell you where the camps are. They d

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes, perhaps I could say something about that. There are 77 individual documented and verifiable testimonies of CNOOC complicity in the persecution of Falun Gong. CNOOC is a state company, and the Communist Party runs the Chinese government, including all state enterprises. It

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  What you're asking is a strategic question to a certain extent, which this committee might be better placed to answer than we could, but I've tried to grapple with that myself. How do we deal with this particular issue, the killing of Falun Gong for their organs? There are differ

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Maybe I can follow up on that. I approached this issue as all of you did. When it first came to me, I didn't know what Falun Gong was or whether this was true or not and I slowly worked my way into it. One of the things I realized is that the Chinese government, the Communist Pa

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Our research didn't stop in 2006. We did a second report in 2007. We did a third report in book form, Bloody Harvest, in 2009. We've done a fourth version last year. As we travel, we meet new witnesses and we hear new evidence; everything is reinforcing, nothing is contradicting.

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  In terms of that congressional record, there are a few things I would say. One is that you have a situation whereby, given the very nature of the facts, the victim is dead and the body is cremated. Nobody is going to come up and say, “I was organ-harvested.” We're dealing with s

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  In further answer to that question, there's also private member's legislation in France by Valérie Boyer, as there is now in New South Wales, Australia, by David Shoebridge. Also, Patrik Vankrunkelsven was one of the senators in Belgium, so we have a number of precedents to look

February 5th, 2013Committee meeting

David Matas

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I wonder if I could interject here. The immigration threshold has an impact on sentencing. I've seen it with the two years. Now you get two years less a day, because the consequence of two years would be no appeal. In fact, if you don't know the immigration process and you don'

November 5th, 2012Committee meeting

David Matas

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I would say that the charter plays into how the law is interpreted and applied, and the government has to apply the law in a way that is consistent with the charter. Of course, Barbara Jackman is right. If you remove humanitarian discretion, it violates the charter, as a result o

November 5th, 2012Committee meeting

David Matas