Citizenship and Immigration committee  No, I agree entirely that we have to go that way, to biometrics. We know now that the concept or the principle of pre-examination has existed for a long time. I mean, if you travel to the United States out of Ottawa, you go up to the airport, and if you're there unluckily on a ba

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I think you're probably right. I haven't seen the questions the U.S. asked on their eTA. I have seen the Australian's questions, and those are very simple. Basically it's who are you and what are the—

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I think I already mentioned that. Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume the system provides that if your eTA has been refused and you think a mistake has been made or you want to discuss it, you can do so with a visa officer in the country where you're located.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, I think it's a simple measure in the sense that it's a benefit to the country to make sure that inadmissible people don't get into the country. It's a tremendous benefit to people who are travelling to know that they can enter once they've been pre-cleared abroad. In that s

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, indeed.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes. I see it as an enabling provision. It enables the government to go ahead and do what we're committed to do by this agreement and by the meeting in Washington between the Prime Minister and the President.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Oh, absolutely. I mean, that has been totally disapproved, but despite the efforts of the Canadian embassy in Washington and many others, it still seems to persist with a lot of Americans, including a lot of American politicians, unfortunately.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, I can. The department estimates that for individuals being removed, the costs are from $1,500 up to $15,000, but they have had cases where the costs are much more than that—up to $300,000.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, I mentioned that the departmental estimates for this year were $540.7 million for removal over a five-year period.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Exactly, but the $540.7 million is just for removal. The costs of having inadmissible people in your country are much broader than just the direct costs of removing them. They are here, they get free legal advice to go before the courts, they're often being looked after—there are

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I don't think they should have the right to go to the courts about it, but I do think they should ask if they think there's been a mistake made in their record or—they should certainly have an opportunity to try to have that corrected.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I just assume that is built into the system. If you are refused in Australia or in the United States on the electronic travel authority, you do have an opportunity then of going before a visa officer and explaining why you think a mistake has been made.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, clearly, I think the system Canada is going to introduce initially is not on a biometric system completely, and therefore what you're saying is probably true. I mean, there is the possibility for fraud, and there is the possibility that you can answer questions falsely and

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No.